Monday, June 15, 2009
"Leave It to Beaver": Is That Mayfield, Ohio?
When I was younger -- meaning when "Leave It to Beaver" was still on network TV -- I thought its town of Mayfield was in Ohio. (I was in Virginia.) Maybe I had heard of Mayfield, Ohio, somewhere. And when there was talk about State University, it has made me think of Ohio State. In fact, Mayfield wasn't supposed to be in a specific state. But there is considerable thought nonetheless that it's the one in Ohio. More after the jump.... . In his 1998 memoir "And Jerry Mathers as 'The Beaver,' " Mather says, "Mayfield is anywhere, USA. ...
Actually, there are twenty-seven Mayfields across the country," the book continues. "Some people think it's Akron, Ohio, because there's a Mayfield near Akron. But at different times Mayfield is described as being only twenty miles from the ocean. Others think it is somewhere in California, but the characters travel to California. We even altered the mileage signs at the bus station when Beaver goes on a trip, so viewers wouldn't be able to go their atlas and pinpoint a town.
But viewers are more dogged than that.
On the fan site Leaveittobeaver.org, the following is part of the discussion of Mayfield's location:
The show makes numerous mentions to neighboring cities and communities, and even street names, that would correspond with the Mayfield located in Ohio. Ohio is always the most popular speculation.
In one of the episodes Wally takes the Beaver to the new amusement park with his friends, to ride on The Giant Dipper. The Giant Dipper is located in Santa Cruz but it is also in San Diego and in Chippewa Lake, Ohio. It is obvious that the contradictions are done on purpose. If they live in Mayfield, Ohio it would have taken Wally 1 hour and 13 minutes to drive to Chippewa Lake, That isn't far but for a teen taking his little brother to a park it would probably be out of the question.
One fan writes to me: It was not California because the people who owned the Haunted house in "Mistaken Identity" moved to California. They are not from Indiana because the new student (young blond girl) that Wally had a crush on, that Mrs. Cleaver invited on the picnic to Friends Lake was from Indianapolis Indiana or "one of those states." This seemed to eliminate Ohio, though the checkbook evidence seems quite positive proof. Illinois Ohio, Indiana seem to be one of those states.
Another fan ... states: 'I live in Cleveland and the references made in the episodes can't be any where else. Grant Avenue, Mayfield, and all the other bits of information indicate Mayfield Ohio. We do have a Mayfield Ohio. '
Finally, closely inspecting the prop checks used in the 1997 Leave It To Beaver movie shows an Ohio address of "211 Pine Street, Mayfield, Ohio."
The reality may be less glamour and more practical. Looking at the occasional exterior shots on Leave It To Beaver, Mayfield’s neighborhood looks pretty like the Pacific area, right around the region where Leave It To Beaver was filmed in Hollywood, California.
I boldfaced the one section, since it is the strongest evidence for Mayfield, OH. The fan site also offers other info, both for and against Mayfield being in Ohio. I still lean toward the Beav being a Buckeye, although Mathers offers this description of the TV Mayfield:
"It's always spring or fall, and it never snows. It's usually sunny, unless the plot calls for rain. It's expensive to make rain, you have to set up rain machines and hire a special effects man."
And a Mayfield where it rarely rains cannot be in NE Ohio.
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Other references to areas near Mayfield, OH include: Ward Cleaver was referred to as the "pride of Shaker Heights High School" in one episode. Beaver and Wally mention Euclid Avenue in another episode where the boys go downtown. Beaver's teacher was Miss Lander; Lander Road is the western border of Mayfield, OH.
ReplyDeleteThe Cleavers also move to Madison, which could be Madison, OH. I too, believe, the references to NE Ohio are too numerous to ignore.
They never moved to Madison. They made an offer on a house there and it fell through hence the episode where Beaver was given a going away party but never went sway
DeleteThey never moved to Madison. They made an offer on a house there and it fell through hence the episode where Beaver was given a going away party but never went sway
DeleteThey never moved to Madison. They made an offer on a house there and it fell through hence the episode where Beaver was given a going away party but never went sway
DeleteThey never moved to Madison. They made an offer on a house there and it fell through hence the episode where Beaver was given a going away party but never went sway
DeleteThey never moved to Madison. They made an offer on a house there and it fell through hence the episode where Beaver was given a going away party but never went sway
DeleteIn a 1957 episode beaver was standing in front of a travel agency that said Chicago $12.50 Miami $58.50 Mexico City $98.95 and Toronto $52. There must be some mathematical algorithm or equation to narrow down his location
DeleteI completely agree that the references are to the Mayfield in Ohio. I grew up near that area and Shaker Heights ... it seems plausible that it was in Ohio. Also, I heard that one of the writers grew up in the Cleveland area, and he modeled Mayfield after his home-town area.
ReplyDeleteHow could it possibly be Ohio when Eddie was going to take a job on a ship sailing to Alaska. The boys went to the shipping company to meet with the captain. Weather was also very warm on the one Christmas episod.
DeleteActually, it was possible at that time
Deletefor Mayfield boys to get to Alaska for
summer work. They could take streetcar
to downtown Cleveland, transfer to the
Lakeshore Limited train going west to
Sandusky OH, transfer to the Pelee
Island ferry going to Kingsville ON
or Leamington ON, transfer to the
heavily subsidized Canada Pacific
train going all the way to Prince
Rupert BC (end of the line) and then
transfer to the Alaska Marine Highway
ferry and arrive at Ketchikan or
Juneau. The government subsidy was
7/8 or more on the Canada Pacific.
Plus, students got an extra discount
if they waited until a seat was empty. Of course, Eddie Haskell
imagined he could hitchhike to the
job.
In the episode where Wally and his friends build a kayak, Ward assures June that they won’t be able to take it to the ocean because it’s “20 miles away.”
DeleteGood point, Mary. I'm watching that episode now. The boys have also talked about going surfing, although I dont recall the episode.
DeleteIn season 5, episode 20, Beaver runs into Richard who's sitting by himself on a park bench. He asks Richard what he's doing and Richard says he's waiting to see a car with a New Jersey license plate. All I can say is if that's the case and they're living in the midwest, he could be waiting an awfully long time.
DeleteNot exactly sure what the point is. Kids play all sorts of weird games...especially license plates games.
DeleteIn that episode Beaver suggests Richard would have better odds looking for plates from a much closer state like Pennsylvania. PA borders Eastern Ohio with NJ bordering the opposite side of PA.
DeleteIn Season 1 Episode 13 Voodoo Magic, there is an Ohio State pennant on Eddie Haskell's bedroom wall. It is clearly visible.
DeleteIn season 6, episode 23, June and Ward discuss Wally's interest in a young woman whose parents live far off "in California." June says she'd feel better if they were "from Ohio." The "surfboard" desires of Beaver and Richard seem weird for people around Great Lakes states, but there's beaches next to the lakes, I guess. Also, during the early 1960s, the Gidget and multitude of "beach movies" - and the popular Beach Boys music, made many young people want surfboards.
DeleteYou're absolutely right. The obsession with the surfing craze (and the music and the bikinis, etc.) was NATIONAL. Teens in NE Ohio (and Oklahoma and Utah, for that matter) were totally enthralled.
DeleteI grew up in Mayfield Hts Ohio, and went to Lander Elementary school (ie Miss Lander, Beaver's teacher). Not so coincidentally our team/school nickname/mascot at Lander was, you guessed it, The Beavers...we were the Lander Beavers. I'm sure the nickname came after the popularity of the show...I went to school there in the late 60's, so it seems to make sense...that along with the other Ohio references that have been discussed on this page seems to make sense. By the way, Lander Elementary School (on Lander Road) is still serving the kids of Mayfield to this day!
ReplyDeleteAnd (continuing from above)...strangely, Beaver's best friend's name is Gilbert. An odd name to be sure, but again another Mayfield Hts reference...Gilbert Drive is located about two blocks from Lander Road and Lander school...I also happened to grow up on Gilbert Drive...I couldn't think of where Lumpy, Eddie or Whitey street was though.
ReplyDeleteWhite Road. Eddy Road.
DeleteBeaver's teacher is Miss Landers, not Lander.
Delete🙄
DeleteI happened to be watching an episode today, and Ward says to the Beav, "Did I ever tell you I was the best kite builder in Shaker Hts.?" Where else but northern Ohio would there be a Shaker Hts and Mayfield in close proximity?
ReplyDeleteThe earlier episodes made references that tended to indicate Ohio, but as the series went on it became more California. For example, in later episodes there were references to the ocean being nearby, to going surfing, to towns and cities in California, and when they showed the outdoor scenes of Beaver's school, it was clearly a California-style school with outside covered walkways connecting separate classroom buildings. However, the clincher was a scene from an episode in about the '60 or '61 season that showed Beav and another character talking in the driveway, and Ward's Plymouth was parked in the background with period correct ('57 issue) black on yellow California license plates, with "California" clearly printed on them.
ReplyDeletein the episode where Beaver cuts english class and thinks hes not going to graduate, his mother tells him his uncle Billy is going to fly "all the way from California" to see the ceremony. that would lend credence to Mayfield NOT being in California.. there are many references that indicate it could be in either state. but as per the previous post where a califonia plate was seen on wards 57 Plymouth we must face the fact that the writers wanted this to be a topic of discussion for years to come. many things point to ohio, but just as many suggest California. however, the license plate is a strong vote for cali. we may never know...this is a mystery for Sherlock holmes
DeleteHow could you tell that the license plates were yellow on black on a black and white television show? Just curious!
DeleteIf the plate said California the color is irrelevant. Otherwise, great question!
DeleteI never noticed Ward's car with a California plate. Of course the show was filmed in California so it was convenient and I guess they hoped the viewers wouldn't spot it. But LITB was Anytown USA. It wasn't supposed to be in California. Or specifically anywhere else. Mayfield was just a small town that could be anywhere in the country.
DeleteWhen Wally bought his first clunker of car. Ward has a conversation with him about getting rid of the car. Wally just wants to keep it in the garage and fix it up (then maybe drive it around the block). Ward says something about driving it around the block or driving it to California. So they obviously WERE NOT in California
DeleteLarry's father travels to Cincinnati for business.
ReplyDeleteI just watched an episode where Mrs. Cleaver is looking for homes in a newspaper. She says there's a home in Fairview Park, which is also a suburb in Cleveland (I have in-laws who live in Fairview Park....and I also live in the Cleveland area.)
I also remember Mr. Cleaver talking about Shaker Heights.
I'm watching a LITB marathon now, and they mentioned Lakewood Ave, which is in Lakewood.
Coincidence?
yes. netflix has got all 234 episodes. I usually watch 3 per week.
DeleteLooking at the first house you can find different cactus in the yards
DeleteWE HAVE A MAYFIELD NY NW OF ALBANY NY
ReplyDeleteIve always wanted to know the actual true location of Mayfield high. They say you can go to jerrymathers.com and ask the Beaver any questions about his show....
ReplyDeleteIn season 5 Wally's team has a game against "Cleveland High".
ReplyDeleteWhile I think mathers is telling the truth its anywhere usa, it is pretty clear they are using Mayfield, OH as a template.
I live near Los Angeles. We have a Cleveland High School here too. The Cleveland refers to former President Grover Cleveland. Not to a city.
DeleteYes. Mayfield OH. All of the references to STATE & Shaker Hts. are correct. I watched it today. June said, Ward! I wish Marlene was from OHIO!!
ReplyDeleteWard also makes several references to growing up in Shaker Heights which is also in Ohio near Mayfield.
ReplyDeleteThe movie new Leave It To Beaver
Deletedepicts football rivals playing
against Mayfield. The scoreboard
identifies them as Oak Park and
Benton. There are communities in
Ohio called Oak Park and Benton.
Crystal Falls is mentioned as being
ReplyDelete90 miles from Mayfield. This distance
rules out Chagrin Falls OH, Cuyahoga
Falls OH and Niagra Falls NY. But there
is a city named after a waterfall about
90 miles from Mayfield OH. It is Beaver
Falls PA. Naturally, its name would have
to be changed, to avoid confusion with
Beaver Cleaver.
Niagra Falls NY is 200 miles from
DeleteMayfield OH. Cuyahoga Falls OH is
30 miles from Mayfield. Chagrin
Falls is 9 miles fron Mayfield.
Newton Falls OH is 50 miles from
Mayfield. Beaver Falls PA is 98
miles by road, but 80 miles in
a straight line, from Mayfield.
There is a REAL Crystal Falls in the U.P. of Michigan, which tends to support the case for Wisconsin. I love how people tend to change or make up sh*t to support an argument
DeleteAnd Crystal Falls is a consistent series reference, as it is mentioned on at least four episodes.
DeleteFreeport OH is 110 miles from Mayfield
ReplyDeleteOH. If the Cleavers leave Mayfield at
4:00 p.m. they may or may not reach
Freeport by dusk, depending on the
season and whether or not the time zone has made a switch between
Daylight Savings Time and Eastern
Standard Time.
Also, there is a lake in Ohio named
Friendship Lake. It is near Smithfield
OH, which is formerly an old Quaker
settlement (as was Freeport OH.)
Shaker Heights OH does have an all-girl
ReplyDeleteboarding school that June could have
attended for high school years. It is
the Laurel School and is located on
Lyman Circle in Shaker Heights. The
Laurel School moved to Shaker Heights
from Cleveland in the late 1920s. It
has long had a community service
requirement for graduation. Perhaps
June met Ward off campus during her
community service stint.
There is another all-girl private
Deletehigh school in Shaker Heights OH.
It is Hathaway Brown School.
But the all-girl private school
closest to Ward's Shaker Heights
High is not in Shaker Heights OH. It is in neighboring Cleveland Heights OH. Its name
is the Beaumont School.
June is from East St. Louis, Illinois. In a fourth-season episode, June refers to Ward as "the pride of Shaker Heights" and he counters by referring to her as "the belle of East St. Louis."
DeleteFreeport OH is the closest town to the
ReplyDeletemost rustic public-owned lake in the
State of Ohio (Lake Clendening.) Maybe
the getaway weekend for Ward and June
was sponsored by Ward's employer for
the peace and quiet they would surely
find there.
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ReplyDeleteThere is another Freeport
Deletewithin several hours drive of
Mayfield OH. It is Freeport Beach
at North East borough in
Pennsylvania. It is around 103
miles from Mayfield, and has
outstanding sunsets.
Is Lake Erie oceanic? Of course not,
ReplyDeletebut...
Lake Erie waters can be as rough as
any ocean. Attesting to this is the
famous ballad by Gordon Lightfoot,
the Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald.
Surf can be found on Lake Erie.
DeleteBut the best surf waves occur
in late summer and early autumn,
when the water is cold. So
wetsuits are usually needed.
Edmund Fitzgerald sank on lake superior.
DeleteLake Erie is definitely coastal,
ReplyDeletethough not oceanic. And surfing is a
notable extreme sport there. One of the
best surfing sites near Shaker Heights
and Mayfield is called Surfers Point
Campground. Its at North Madison OH,
35 miles from Shaker Heights OH.
Madison OH is 30 miles from
DeleteMayfield OH. Madison-on-
the-Lake OH is 35 miles from
Mayfield OH.
Madison-on-the-Lake has the
best surfing conditions on
Lake Erie shore in the Cleveland
area.
Ward went to "State College." This
ReplyDeletemay or may not mean a state college in
Ohio. Or, it may mean the municipality
of State College in the neighboring
state of Pennsylvania. This is the
location Of Penn State, where Ward
could have learned some engineering or
surveying before switching majors to
philosophy. State College PA is 235
miles from Mayfield OH.
There is, or at least was at that time, a Cleveland State University.
DeleteThe LITB lake called Friends Lake may
ReplyDeletehave been a thinly-diguised variation
on the finest lake in Shaker Heights.
This was Shaker Lake. It was built in
the 1800s by the utopian agricultural
community, the Shakers.
There is a Friends Lake in the metroparks in the city of Solon, Ohio that is not that far from Mayfield.
DeleteThere is a Friend's Lake in New York too.
DeleteMany people yearn for a return to the
ReplyDeletered-blooded, all-american family values
depicted by the fictional characters of
Ward and June Cleaver. It is reminiscent
of the finale of the 1930s utopian
novel and movie, "Lost Horizon."
Dodge City KS celebrates the characters of Matt Dillon, Kitty
Russell and Dr Galen Adams.
Mount Airy NC celebrates the
characters of Sheriff Andy, Opie
and Aunt Bee.
Why can't Ohio, especially Cuyahoga
County, do something similar to
give a focus to the unforgettable
characters, the Cleavers?
Might there be real-life antecedents
ReplyDeleteto the fictional names and characters
of Mr. and Mrs. Cleaver? Maybe.
The City of Cleveland was originally
spelled Cleaveland. (It was altered
for a typographical convenience.)
Cleaveland's namesake was Moses
Cleaveland, who had some uncanny
resemblances to Ward Cleaver.
Both were college graduates and earned
their livings as investment managers.
Both were mariners, surveyors and
engineers. (Moses Cleaveland had
served in the newly-formed Army
Corps of Engineers; Ward Cleaver
had served in the SeaBees.) Both
had families with stay-at-home moms.
Mrs. Cleaveland did not accompany
her husband on his expedition to
"New Connecticut," the proto-state
that eventually became Ohio.
Incidentally, Mrs. Cleaveland is known
to have been christened in the month of
June, though her birthday is not known.
This could have inspired the name
June Cleaver.
The Cleavers went to a cabin in season 2. The elevation was over 6000' . Is that possible in Ohio?
ReplyDeleteNo. That much altitude might
Deleteoccur in neighboring West Virginia
or Pennsylvania.
The Connecticut Yankee pioneers who
ReplyDeletefollowed Moses Cleaveland to the proto-
state of New Connecticut were well
aware that they were pilgrims bound for
a promised land. There is even a physical resemblance of New Connecticut to the Land of Goshen
given by the Egyptians to the Israelites. Both were located on
the right bank near the delta of
a northward-flowing river that
empties into a vast inland body
of water. Both were blessed with
good pastures, good soil for growing vegetables and good fishing.
Moreover, both were gotten without
bloodshed. Unlike most Western settlers, the pioneer-pilgrims to
New Connecticut arrived heavily laden
with gifts for the Native Americans.
(These peace offerings included
livestock, trinkets and even some
whiskey.) Generous gift-giving was
possible only because they came by the
watercourses, not overland by
Conestoga wagons pulled by draft
animals. So peacefully was the land
transferred that Moses Cleaveland
decided there was no need to construct
a fort, though site was very well
situated for a military stronghold.
If ever there was place suited to
pilgrims seeking to sojourn in a new
Land of Goshen, at that time NE OH
was it.
The first name of Ward Cleaver, Ward,
ReplyDeletecomes from the ancient anglo-saxon term
"weard." Weard meant herd-driver or
horde-driver. This meaning is an apt
functional descriptor of the patriarchal figure of Moses.
The highest altitudes in West Virginia
ReplyDeleteare at Spruce Knob and Snowshoe Mountain. Both are closer to Cleveland
than Cleveland is to Cincinnati OH.
Ohio has its well-known Amish country.
ReplyDeleteIt draws is visitors from far and wide,
even from overseas.
What the world needs now is a special
place where people can go to celebrate
the nuclear family lifestyle with a stay-at-home mom and a single-paycheck
household economy. Do we look for such
a Brigadoon-like place in Ohio? If not
Ohio, then where?
I am watching Beaver as a hero and he rescues a canoe...Belleport is mentioned where Whitey visits for the weekend and Aunt Martha calls from Belleport where she lives which is located in New York which is not very far from Ohio. I believe that the fictitious Mayfield is in Ohio.
ReplyDeleteBellport may be a portmanteau
Deleteof Bellaire OH and Bridgeport OH.
These two towns are about 4 miles
apart on Ohio Route 7, across the
Ohio River from Wheeling WV.
Aunt Martha is also associated with
Deletea town called Riverside that is several
hours drive from Mayfield. There is
a Riverside OH, near Dayton OH. It
is about 212 miles (3.5 hours drive)
from Mayfield.
Aunt Martha says "It is good to see
Deletesuch an Eastern-looking town so far
West." Northeast Ohio is famous for
its New England architecture and town
planning. Tallmadge OH is especially
famous for looking more typically
New Englandish than any single town in New England.
Ward told Beav that New England is
just a few hours away by plane. The
distance from the mouth of Conneaut
Creek in OH to the mouth of the
Connecticut River is around 425 miles.
There was another village named Riverside in Ohio. It was annexed by
DeleteGates Mills OH in the late 1920s.
Both are close to Mayfield.
There is a stereotype about the nuclear
ReplyDeletefamily folkway so well portrayed by the
Cleavers, especially June Cleaver. Every
one knows the cliche: nuclear families
were a short-lived, post WWII American phenomenon that arose from suburbs,
automobiles and industrialization.
This stereotype is just plain wrong.
Nuclear families came over on the
Mayflower and have been the norm here ever since. The Puritans and Pilgrims
were very intentional about this, and
called nuclear families "the little
commonwealth" or "the covenant family."
It is no accident that Mayfield resembles NE Ohio. It was Connecticut
Yankees, descendants of the Puritans,
who originated the place.
Mayfield may be an allusion to the
ReplyDeleteMayflower.
The Cuyahoga River was the western
terminus of the Pilgrims' Progress
which began over 160 years earlier
on the shore of Cape Cod bay.
A little-known fact is that
both these eastern and western
extremities of Puritan settlement
had Caucasian females in attendance
at the peace conferences with Native
American inhabitants. This was highly
unusual in the history of the New World. Neither the Portuguese nor
the Spanish nor the French nor the
Dutch nor the Swedes had white women
come along to witness the parleys,
the transfer of goods and livestock,
and the concluding smoking of the peace
pipe at the earliest stages of European settlement in the New world.
And that includes
Russians in Alaska and Vikings in
Greenland.
Tony Dow mentions on his website that
ReplyDeletethe entertainment publication Variety
has called Leave It To Beaver the
20th century equivalent of Samuel
Clemens' (Mark Twain) Adventures Of
Tom Sawyer.
The Adventures Of Tom Sawyer is
situated in and around the Missouri
river port towns of Hannibal and
St. Petersburg in the late 1840s.
The exceptional strength of the
DeleteAmerican conventional nuclear
family and the homemaking women
that made it possible was noticed by the astute French
nobleman Alexis de Toqueville
almost twenty years before the
epoch described by Mark Twain
in the Adventures of Tom Sawyer.
De Toqueville's observations
included his first-hand account
of the good behavior of all the women passengers on
a steamboat that wrecked on the
Ohio River on November 26, 1831.
(He barely escaped drowning.)
Alexis de Toqueville was shipwrecked
Deletein the middle of the Ohio River,
between Wheeling (then in Virginia)
and Martins Ferry (in Ohio.)
When Toqueville took passage on
that steamboat in 1831, steam-powered rapid public interurban
rapid public transport was already
twenty years old in the Ohio Valley. The first long-distance
steamboat to dock in Cincinnati did so in 1811.
It had started from Pittsburgh
and continued on its journey to
New Orleans.
Three cheers for three Ohio folkways
ReplyDeleteheroines! Betty Zane (Belmont County),
Annie Oakley (Darke Clounty) and
June Cleaver (Cuyahoga County) !!!
Add these to the list of Buckeye heroines:
ReplyDeleteHarvey Girl Susan Bradley (Ross
County) and Sloopy Girl (Jefferson
County.)
Another addition to that list would
ReplyDeletebe the Flying Grandmother Gerri Mock
(Franklin County.)
Also, June Cleaver deserves accolades
for her prescient preventative
for electronic media addiction.
Television was kept out of her
living room or rec room. The
Cleavers had a TV, but it was
watched only in the parents'
bedroom or in Ward's den (now
called a man-cave.)
Wally and Beaver had a radio in the
ReplyDeletebedroom they shared. It was a tube
model (not a transistorized portable)
and was located on a shelf in their
bookcase.
The Cleavers also had a stereo hifi.
ReplyDeleteIt apparently was played mainly for
serious music. June liked Italian
opera. Wally liked Russian symphonic
music such as Tchaichovsky.
In the first season Wally and Beaver take a train ride home from Aunt Martha's. The town of Bellport is mentioned as being the next stop but it is far from Mayfield. And Wally mentions a souvenir starfish they picked up at the beach. Maybe the Cleavers lived on Long Island NY. But the writers should have paid better attention to their scripts. Maybe they were just sloppy in dropping at those hints at place names.
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ReplyDeleteHave been watching all of the episodes on MeTV and just got through some of the house hunting storyline. June mentions a house in “Fairview Park” for sale and also one on “Lakewood” avenue. Both are suburbs of Cleveland. Combine that with Ward’s growing up in “Shaker Hts.” and the Cleavers’ hometown of “Mayfield “ (two MORE Cleveland suburbs), and it’s absolutely obvious that the show was supposed to have taken place in the Cleveland area. As far as the weather, do you really think the production company was going to go through the expense of turning the Hollywood backlot where the show was filmed into a winter wonderland to “prove” that the show took place in the Midwest? Of course not. But it’s undeniable and the references all line up. The show took place in the wonderful Cleveland suburbs of the late 50s & early 60s.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the episode where in the garage the car license plates hanging on the wall, one clearly said UTAH. Also, on another episode Aunt Martha makes the comment to June, how wonderful it is to see an Eastern Style home so far west. Just saying....
ReplyDeleteI know the show was filmed in California. In one of he episodes I was able to see the license plate on Ward's car. It was a California license plate. Maybe the little detail they missed during filming.
ReplyDeleteIt has to be Mayfield, Michigan.
ReplyDeleteIn episode "The Bus Ride," Beaver goes to visit a friend in Crystal Falls which is are both in Michigan.
I've always had a sneaking suspicion that Mayfield is in Washington state. My two main clues: Beaver and Wally often have a "W" pennant hanging in their bedroom, and it is often shown to have rained in scenes where we saw Ward pulling into the driveway. Another clue: In one episode, we get the Cleaver's telephone number, which has the exchange of WHitney 1 (941). Googling that exchange brings up Seattle in the #1 spot. OK, carry on :-)
ReplyDeleteI think the setting has remained intentionally ambiguous. I long thought it was in a small Midwestern metro area, like Peoria. But, there is good evidence that it leans toward Mayfield, Ohio, in the larger Midwestern metro area of Cleveland.
DeleteThis would also align with the "20 miles from the ocean" stuff.
ReplyDeleteOne more thing - Seattle averages very little snowfall, about 6 inches a year.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the check that says Mayfield, Ohio on it??????????
ReplyDeleteWhat episode?
DeleteOn the episode "Wally buys a car", they show them passing the Elmiro Theater in Santa Monica, CA. as they test drive a car.
ReplyDeleteNot sure what episode of season 1 or who's bedroom it was in, there was an Ohio State pendant hanging on the wall.
ReplyDeleteYes! It was in Eddie Haskell's room!!
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ReplyDeleteSeason 1 Episode 13 Voodoo Magic
DeleteThe pennant is in Eddie Haskell's bedroom.We see it when Beaver goes to visit Eddie.
Sue Randall played Miss Landers with an s on the end. Not Miss Lander as some of you have posted in your comments. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003711/bio
ReplyDeleteI think there is a good case for Wisconsin too. In addition to other Badger State references, the Season 2 Episode "Ward's Problem" has the father telling Wally he must (again) postpone their fishing trip to Crystal Falls. Crystal Falls is a small town due north of Mayfield, Wisconsin in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and a great outdoor area for fishing and recreation.
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